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Try to look for prices in Singapore, Malaysia, or Thailand as I find them to be more realistic or in-line sa prices sa atin. Pero I'm guessing na yung custom models would be roughly priced Php 3K - Php 4K more expensive than the reference versions.

akala ko mas mura ang parts sa atin, since mas malaki ang market.

jaydee 08 aug #

@sleepygeepy

If close to 30k na ang card. Almost the same price with rtx 2070 Super. Sino ang mas bet mo? RTX 2070 Super or RX 5700XT.

crival 08 aug #

If close to 30k na ang card. Almost the same price with rtx 2070 Super. Sino ang mas bet mo? RTX 2070 Super or RX 5700XT.

mas mabilis pa rin RTX 2070 Super, di ba? not sure about the power draw and thermal performance, though.

jaydee 08 aug #

@jaydee

Meron naman reputation ang Radeon mag improve ang performance ng kanilang card with their software in the long term.

crival 08 aug #

@sleepygeepy

parang kilala kita, Tj pedrosso??

Phenomenal 08 aug #

akala ko mas mura ang parts sa atin, since mas malaki ang market.

Well yes, mas mura ang parts sa atin compared to other regions especially US or Europe. Mas malapit kasi tayo sa source of manufacturing (China and Taiwan) so I'm sure may advantage yun in lowering prices. Pero yung disadvantage natin is predominantly brick-and-mortar stores parin nagbebenta ng PC parts locally so may added costs yung PC shop. Maybe in a couple of years mostly through online shops like Lazada / Shopee / Facebook nalang ang bilihan ng PC parts and yung maiiwan nalang na PC shops are the very big ones with multiple branches.

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

or sorry baka kapares mo ng ID usage din ung katrabaho ko hahaha

Phenomenal 08 aug #

If close to 30k na ang card. Almost the same price with rtx 2070 Super. Sino ang mas bet mo? RTX 2070 Super or RX 5700XT.

Dun parin ako sa better value na GPU, kasi yung performance difference between RX 5700XT and RTX 2070 Super is relatively small. So may tendency ako to go with the cheaper GPU and not care too much about special features like ray tracing or DLSS or Radeon image sharpening etc. As long as I see yung raw performance ng GPU is within 5% to 10% I tend to go with the cheaper GPU. Anyway yung CPU ko is only a Ryzen 5 1600X so any small differences in GPU performance will not show in my setup dahil sa bottleneck somewhere like RAM or CPU etc.

However when looking at individual videocard reviews mas nagiging picky ako sa features ng videocard itself and not necessarily the performance of the GPU. So I might focus less on benchmarks but focus more on temps, cooling, noise, power consumption, and overall build quality. So if a videocard has better cooling and runs quieter versus a cheaper videocard with the same GPU I might spend more because of those features.

Pero if both are priced the same and have the same cooling / build quality... for example lang, MSI RTX 2070 Gaming X versus MSI RX 5700XT Gaming X... I will probably go with the RX 5700XT GPU dahil sa FreeSync. Hindi kasi ako sure if yung next monitor upgrade ko will be G-Sync compatible so parang safer bet ang FreeSync.

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

parang kilala kita, Tj pedrosso??

Sorry wrong guy :-)

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

mas mabilis pa rin RTX 2070 Super, di ba? not sure about the power draw and thermal performance, though.

Based sa benchmarks ni Hardware Unboxed around 2% faster on average ang RX 5700XT at 1440p. Sa review ni Techpowerup nasa 9% faster at 1080p / 12% faster at 1440p yung RTX 2070 Super. Mas mabilis parin ang RTX 2070 Super but the difference is very small and might not be noticeable in actual gameplay.

If you think about it, if the game is running at 60 fps on an RX 5700XT... an extra 12% is just 67 fps so might not be noticeable when focused ka sa game and not peeking at the framerate counter every few minutes hehe.

Regarding power draw, kapag reference RX 5700XT versus reference RTX 2070 Super parang nasa below 10 watts lang difference. So mas matipid sa power draw ang RTX 2070 Super ng konti.

Pero pagdating ng mga custom RX 5700XT models... I have a feeling na mas malakas ang real world power draw and temps ng RX 5700XT videocards. Judging by the massive GPU heatsinks ng mga parating na AIB models, medyo unusual yung ganun cooling for a 7nm GPU.

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

Meron naman reputation ang Radeon mag improve ang performance ng kanilang card with their software in the long term.

I think with the newer GPU's like RX 5700 and RX 5700XT baka matagal pa natin makita ang effects ng "fine wine" kasi kaka-shift palang ni Radeon to a new architecture (RDNA). Hindi naman exactly start from scratch, but any driver improvements with Navi baka hindi na makikinabang ang older GPU's like Polaris or Vega.

Unlike before na they stuck with the GCN architecture for so long (since 2012) any driver improvements sa latest RX Vega videocards may spill-over effects parin to older cards like Radeon HD 7970 or R9 290X etc. Kasi yung GPU's nila were mostly on the same GCN architecture.

Siguro after 5 years kung RDNA architecture parin gamit ni Radeon sa 2025 model videocards nila, then I'm sure may "fine wine" ulit with older RX 5700 / RX 5800 series videocards :-)

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

Case in point... bakit ang super laki ng GPU cooler ng ASUS ROG STRIX RX 5700XT? Does it really have to be that THICC? ^_^

sleepygeepy 08 aug #

@sleepygeepy

Salamat sa information. FREESYNC talaga ang biggest factor. Para sa akin indi naman worth it ang GSYNC. RT, DLSS and etc aren't improtant to me. Gusto ko lang maka move on from 20-30 fps to 60 and above. Hopefully pang OC factor lang ang big cooler ng mga AIB Navi cards. I don't plan to OC atm since 550watts lang PSU ko. XD

crival 09 aug #

@sleepygeepy

Regardless kung what process node(nm) it is, the higher the performance, the hotter it gets. hindi porket nasa 7nm ka na eh, slim and small heatsinks na gamit mo. Also we still dont have any idea if the new RDNA architecture will be similar to their previous GCN architecture wherein it scaled better on newer game titles aka "finewine".

kokobash 24 aug #

Hi guys. So eto yung current setup ko. i5-4460 then rx480. Kung halimbawa may budget ako na pang upgrade. Alin dapat ko unahin? Yung gpu or yung processor, mobo and ram? Thanks

paulorgl 28 aug #

Hi guys. So eto yung current setup ko. i5-4460 then rx480. Kung halimbawa may budget ako na pang upgrade. Alin dapat ko unahin? Yung gpu or yung processor, mobo and ram? Thanks

Parang mas okay if GPU muna? Depende rin siguro if anong gpu yung ipapalit mo, and sa budget. Ano ba sana ipapalit mo?

jaydee 29 aug #

2060 sana or 5700

paulorgl 29 aug #

2060 sana or 5700

parang mas ok yata yung 5700 between the two, and oo nga parang mas ok na gpu muna if you’re using the rig primarily for gaming.

jaydee 29 aug #

nakakatempt mag 3600X or 3700 haha

Phenomenal 31 aug #

2060 sana or 5700

5700 good value drivers much more better now compared to the last 2 revisions I have the ref gigabyte 5700 from dynaquest overkill for my 1080p monitor will be getting 1440p when I get my 13th month pay .

Dale1220 09 sep #

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